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[Digital Jedi]

Check out this article on Priority. Krishna wrote this article a while back and wanted to share it with the rest of us. If you see any errors please comment here!

[Krishna]

Here's the link.

http://www.cookieslayers.com/index.php?page=29

For those who don't know how to view the articles.

[Dillie-O]

Wow, EXCELLENT work Krishna! I know we've never gotten an "official" document explaining Priority, but this goes a long way to help folks out. Here are a couple suggestions I'd like to add.

1. Formatting. It may just be my monitor, or the theme, but the dark blue bolded section contrasts to the point of being unreadable against the black background. I'd recommend changing it to a yellow or some other complementary color.

2. Stealing Priority. You may want to consider putting steal as "steal" since it is more of a metaphor about what is happening, similarly to how we define an effect as "fizzling". I'm not sure if it would be safe to say that negating the summon is stealing the priority, since technically the monster never hits the field to even evaluate priority.

One popular example of stealing priority might be to consider Breaker the Magical Warrior. When he is successfully summoned, his effect of getting a spell counter immediately activates, and the turn player has now lost the opportunity to use their priority to use an ignition effect or spell speed 2 effect.

Another example I like to use is Stumbling. Since it's effect is mandatory and triggers, once the monster is summoned, Stumbling's effect immediately activates to turn the monster into defense position, so the turn player loses the opportunity to activate the ignition effect.

3. Etiquette. One thing I've talked to others about is how to duel knowing this whole Priority thing. Mentioning things like declaring intent to use priority while you're summoning a monster and confirming with your opponent you're about to change phases (they have the right to activate an effect) come to mind. I don't know if you want to talk about this or stick to the mechanics.

4. General Thoughts. Over in the Lair there was a discussion about this and John Danker had chimed in and gave a very valuable nugget of information:

1st Rule: Turn player has priority at the beginning of any step or phase. Don't overlook the part about priority at the beginning of any step, that can be important.

2nd Rule: Priority returns to the turn player at the end of a chain.

A. If the chain ends in a summon the turn player can activate a spell speed 2 or higher effect or an ignition effect at this time.
B. If the chain doesn't end in a summon the turn player can activate a spell speed 2 or higher effect only at this time.

These are commonly becoming know as "Partial Priority" It's not an official term, just one that is used by most judges to clarify.

Starting to realize this opens up some crazy possibilities. I don't know if you want to work some of this info in, but it helps a lot. I need to print this out for my own records one day 8^D

Again, an EXCELLENT article. Keep up the good work!

[Digital Jedi]

I've always referred to refer to situations, such as the one with Breaker or Trigger Effects, of having your Priority used for you. In other words, you've never really lost it. You just didn't get the option to choose what and if you wanted to do so. Think of it like a mandatory fee that get directly taken from your bank account. You didn't get the fee waived, you just didn't get to choose the date and or manner in which the fee was paid. Similarly, you don't really loose anything when Breaker is summoned or a Trigger Effect goes off upon a summoning. You just get fewer or only one option.

But yes, it's a good article Krish, and one that more players should take a stab at. The blue text is my fault. Krishna had colored text in that part of his article from where he had last posted it, and when I edited the HTML (because TinyPortal doesn't read BBCode) I didn't pick the right shade of blue for the forums.

[Krishna]

Hey thanks guys!
I forgot to take the formatting out of the article from my last forum. Also, some of the words are related to a program called KCVDS that we use on that forum to duel with. Most of the time we don't "Say" anything, we just wait a few seconds to see the opponent's response. They definatly need to stop that XD I should also change the words in the article.

But now that makes me have to ask a question.
Can a player activate Torential Tribute to Breaker's Summoning? In this case, would it be chained to Breaker's mandatory trigger "spell counter" effect?

[Dillie-O]

Yes, they can.

The thing to remember is that the chain is built upon the event being responded to. So when Breaker is Summoned, its mandatory trigger effect is activated (interestingly enough, responding to the summon of itself), and you can chain from there. Even if Torrential is link 4 on the chain, it can still be legally activated.

There are some cases where the effect needs to respond immediately to the activation of the event to be legal. A recent example I found is where Player A has Winged Rhynos on the field and a set Trap and Player B has Light and Darkness Dragon on the field. Player A activates their trap and wants to use Rhynos' effect to bounce it back to the hand. Howver, due to the mechanics involved, LaDD will immediately chain itself to the activation of the trap. Rhynos (similar to Horus LV 8) must chain to the activation, so it has missed it's timing, even though it is considered a multi-trigger effect.

Hopefully this doesn't make things more confusing 8^D

[SoilentG]

one thing I'd like you to add is about priority and targeting... this came up in a duel on GKO, I had torrential tribute f/d and a magic jammer f/d and a Night Assailant f/d.  My opponent was playing a PC deck and special summoned Malicious and I let that slide and then he tributed it for Raiza.  He said "response?" and I said "choose target first" and he said "response?" and I said "Choose target first and I'll tell you" and he said "response??" and I said "choose your target 1st, you have to" and he thought that since I "passed" 3 times he could go on and tell me which card to spin.  He didn't understand that his priority forced Raiza's effect and that he had to target a card 1st.

Ah, this is more of a activation/target issue but it's frustrating that people don't understand how this works... great article krishna, keep it up!

[Krishna]

Sometimes it can be frustrating, but Good Job on standing up for what you knew was correct. Sometimes I fold and just let them be right. I'm getting over that though.

[Digital Jedi]

Yeah, after the second response I would have said, response to what? You haven't chosen anything yet.

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